Hate to say it here, but the new Gorgon Halo at it's price today is NOT the value the Strix Halo offered. I configured a M5 Ultra and a Framework AI Max 400 both w/ 2TB storage. Hate to say it, but on raw $/GB the two are a wash; on bandwidth-adjusted $/GB the Mac is ~3x cheaper. System $/GB │Mac $39.06 | FW $38.07 Memory bandwidth | Mac 1.2 TB/s | FW 273 GB/s Bandwidth-adjusted $/GB ($ ÷ GB × TB/s) Mac $32.60 │ FW $140.00 the Mac has 1.33x the memory and 4.4x the bandwidth for only 1.37x the price while the framework looks $2,690 cheaper, you are not actually getting the same level of value for your investment returned to you. And since thunderbolt & usb4.0 are pretty dang fast, you can shave another $500 off the Studio by dropping down to a 1TB storage drive and using external storage if you got it. For local AI.... Apple is starting to look like they want to take NVIDIA and the DGX Spark head on. It's a HELL of a value.

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Also, one more reason the Mac might be a better value and I mentioned it here when talking about the Spark, broader resale potential:
Spark rec needs a warning label: this is a hobbyist appliance for people already married to local AI. Not a computer. A religion. @TheAhmadOsman is right. Buy the GPU. A Spark is a cute little Linux brick that does one thing and sells to one kind of person. A Mac is a Mac. You can flip it to a designer, a student, a dad who just wants Final Cut. It has a market that exists whether LLMs do or not. Same with a GPU. Gamers, 3D people, miners-in-denial, AI bros - somebody always wants the card. Liquidity is the feature. The Spark? Soldered memory, CUDA-or-bust, Linux-or-bust, buyer pool the size of a Discord server. Short-term you might pawn it to the next wave of local-AI tourists. Long-term it’s a depreciating novelty with no civilian demand. If you fall out of love with it, you’re not selling a machine. You’re trying to find another convert.
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Replying to @1337hero
How many watts are you pulling at max and average load when running local Super Intelligence?
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When running what?
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I have never considered a Mac/Apple product EVER, PC or mobile. I respect them and their quality but never ever wanted or owned one. Ecosphere. However with these outrageous prices, Mac is looking to be the most tasty looking apple in the basket by far. AMD lost the plot here
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I moved to Apple's little sphere in 2010 and around 2024 started pulling away and into linux. The software has been less and less compelling while the hardware was getting more and more interesting. Now that we are living in weird times, it does make a compelling case.
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Made this to compare. And very soon you can run models split between Strix and Mac - am doing it already.
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Now that is an interesting idea.
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right, wouldn't it make more sense if already a strix owner to buy another strix halo and cluster?
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Maybe. . . there's a video idea for @digitalix
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Thank you for this. I'm waiting on the 512 and was worried I fucked up by missing the Spark train.
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I'm curious to see the pricing on the 512's. But it might look like a solid alternative to GPU's too. TBD though. MLX community seems to be catching up too. Good potential for those things to be really capable.
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Considering starting my local AI journey with a humble 32 GB ram Mac mini M6
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I just picked one of those up. Supposed to arrive Monday
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framework desktop is overpriced for what it is. you can get a gmktec 192gb box with 4tb storage for under $7k usd
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Is it under 5k?
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I’m in the same boat. Been making a list to compare, maybe it could help you. Be curious what you find: **192 GB Ryzen AI Max 495** 1. Framework Desktop (no drives or OS)$6799 2. Framework Desktop with 2TB NVME and Fedora $7449 3. GMKTec EVO-X5 2TB NVME $6799 4. Acemagic F9A 2TB $6499 5. Minisforum MS-S1 $7399 **128GB Stric Halo** 1. Framework Desktop DIY $3499 2. GMKTec EVO-X2 $3499 3. Beelink GTR9 $4349 **NVIDIA GB10/DGX Spark (128GB)** 1. HP ZGX Nano 2TB NVME $5699 2. Dell Pro Max GB10 2TB NVME $6287 3. ASUS Ascent GX10 2TB NVME $ 6999 4. PNY DGX Spark 5299 5. NVIDIA Founder’s Edition Spark $4999-6599 **Apple Mac Studio** 1. M5 Max 128GB &1TB NVME $5399 2. M5 Ultra 96GB $5499 3. M5 Ultra 30-Core CPU/64-Core GPU 256GB & 1TB NVME $9499 4. M5 Ultra 36-Core CPU/80-Core GPU 256GB & 1TB NVME $10799
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The question to ask yourself is this going to be my main machine or an inference box? If it's just AI and AI only... the Spark might be the option if you're motivated by price. If it's going to be more than just AI, the Spark is out, IMO. That leaves Mac vs AMD
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Not to mention Apple upgrade makes financing so painless
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Their leasing options too are really good actually, especially if you're running a business. Whole thing can become tax write off.
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How much memory you are configuring for your studio?
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The studio in this example is configured at 256gb - so it is more than the 192gb of the framework - but the only other option is the lesser 96gb variant.
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