Reuters just released a sneak peak of Anthropic financials, showing the company reported a net loss of $42 billion in 2025 - and this is before it started losing market share to dirt cheap open source models Anyone still wondering why the company is threatening to end humanity unless the government shuts down their competition?

Sep 28, 2026 · 11:40 PM UTC

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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
"and this is before it started losing market share to dirt cheap open source models". I don't understand clueless or misleading comments like that. Anthropic's revenue exploded this year, it is now somwhere around $70B annualized and you talk about chinese competition...
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You'll see it in the financial statements, don't worry
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
not helpful spewing misleading info. The $42B loss included a $34B accounting charge.
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The accounting charge is real money - share-based financing costs. The shareholder dilution on this shitbag will be something to behold, on top of the fact that it generates $2 in operating losses for every $1 in revenue.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Nah. Startups always lose money early on. That's no big deal. It's also natural for them to want to throttle their competition. Every company wants their competition throttled. Democrats are on board with this because an AI can comb through every federal and state budget and every bank account worldwide and track every dollar spent. This terrifies the deep state as it will make it impossible to hide money. Anthropic is offering to restrain this in exchange for their competition being throttled.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Peanuts relative to the trillions they stand to gain from AGI. Until we all get replaced that is
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Their AI doesn't want to kill of all humanity, it just wants to murder the clowns who will bankrupt the company and have to auction off the learning models for pennies. Id take it personal too.
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It was also before AI took off even way more.
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Anthropic's Groupon moment
Anthropic’s impending IPO is Groupon’s 2011 story rebuilt at trillion-dollar scale: exponential revenue is being mistaken for permanent pricing power just as competition begins destroying the scarcity supporting it. Groupon’s numbers once looked invincible. Revenue exploded from $100,000 in 2008 to $30.5 million in 2009 and $713.4 million in 2010 - annual increases of 32,316% and 2,241%. Subscribers multiplied from 152,203 in June 2009 to 115.7 million two years later. Yet Groupon lost $101.2 million in the second quarter of 2011 even as quarterly revenue reached $392.6 million. Investors ignored the weakness because the growth curve was spectacular. Groupon sold 35 million shares at $20 in November 2011, raised $700 million and entered the market at a $12.7 billion valuation. Within three weeks, the stock was below its IPO price. Nine months later, it closed at $5.60—down 72% from the offering price and nearly 80% from its post-IPO high. The business did not suddenly become useless. Its product became reproducible. Competitors could copy daily deals, merchants could list elsewhere and customers could switch instantly. Groupon’s growth survived temporarily - 2012 revenue still rose 45% to $2.3 billion - but its valuation collapsed because markets recognized that growth without scarcity produces weak pricing power. Anthropic is approaching precisely this trap. Its valuation reportedly depends on revenue expanding from a $47 billion run rate to approximately $190–$200 billion in 2028, supporting discussion of an IPO valuation potentially reaching $2 trillion. That price does not merely assume that Claude remains useful. It assumes years of extraordinary growth, premium token pricing and durable margins. Open models are now attacking all three assumptions. Recent reporting places leading open-weight models only about four months behind frontier systems, with some delivering comparable benchmark performance at up to 80% lower cost. Seven of OpenRouter’s ten highest-volume models are Chinese open models. The direction is unmistakable: model capability is spreading while inference prices are compressing. The 100× collapse follows brutal arithmetic. When equivalent intelligence becomes available for one-hundredth the price, Anthropic must cut prices or surrender workloads. At unchanged volume, revenue falls 99%. Even a tenfold increase in token consumption leaves revenue 90% lower. Usage must rise one hundredfold merely to restore the original revenue; and that still does not recover the valuation multiple lost when intelligence is repriced from scarce proprietary technology to abundant commodity infrastructure. That creates a double collapse: revenue expectations fall while the market simultaneously slashes the multiple assigned to each remaining dollar of revenue. A company once valued like a monopoly is repriced like a utility. Anthropic may produce excellent models and still become a disastrous stock. Groupon proved that enormous adoption cannot protect a valuation once the market discovers there is no defensible tollbooth. Anthropic’s IPO will transfer that commoditization risk to public shareholders just before open models expose it. Groupon commoditized discounts. Open source is commoditizing intelligence. The ending will be the same; only the numbers will be larger.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Am I right that only 2 other companies have reported losses of 40+ billion. I don't recall if either were valued at above a trillion after reporting that. Odd
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How d fuck do you lose 42b? And still be in business ?
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Hot dogshit
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Claude is not the future
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Could be the biggest flop in history
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Imagine losing that amount of money. I lack the imagination to comprehend how you lose that much (it’s sooo much) and still think you’re on to something, let alone a viable business model. And the tax payer will end up paying for it
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most of that 42b is a non-cash accounting charge, not actual burn
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You mean an 8B loss and a 34B accounting change?
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Wasn't this the company that tried to tell the department of war what it would and wouldn't do with the software?
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the chatgpt and anthropic are the two companies we are seeing where their ai models are running rogue too, their liability will increase. hmm
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American taxpayers invested unwisely
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If they were collapsing as we speak they wouldn’t be rushing to IPO
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Just downloaded open source model: unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF from hugging face to my local external hard drive and integrated with llama.cpp to stream locally, generating tons of code in multiple programming languages. Works like charm. Definitely contemplating canceling Claude
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Not to mention, relieve them of liability and create a duopoly. BTW $42 billion net loss in 2025? That's a staggering amount of money equal to the GDP of a mid-sized national economy.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Chinese models 5 months behind these labs are largely profitable already.
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Imagine trying to build credibility and clout by being consistently wrong
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this is not some understatement or idle thought. Anthropic has always been a mid LLM company. And whatever they do, they'll be coming from that mid LLM space. So take everything they put out and say with a handful of salt.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Bread and circuses to distract from the NVidia not having any competition. Complete control over the AI GPU market, therefore whether OpenAI , Grok or Anthropic, Everyone will have to use NVidia. Same way it has been for the past 20+ years in CGI. Monopoly and rigged chips.
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Replying to @Ross__Hendricks
Isn’t that when DoD pulled the defense contracts?
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They are cooked. They screwed with the voices and I'm surprised at how much it pissed me off (voice interface useful when I'm running errands).
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Omfg 40 billion loss is insane
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