Kemi Badenoch says what is going wrong with Britain's economy is the “huge number of people who can work who don't work”.
Laura Kuenssberg repeatedly asks her a very simple question: how many?
Badenoch says the Conservatives have the data, but she doesn't have it with her.
She then pivots to disability, “One in four people in our country reporting as disabled. That cannot be right.”
My view: Why has Britain become so much sicker?
Long-term sickness-related economic inactivity increased substantially after the pandemic.
Covid did not simply disappear when politicians stopped talking about it.
Long Covid can leave people with disabling fatigue, breathlessness, cognitive problems, pain and other symptoms lasting months or years. Around two million people in England and Scotland were still reporting Long Covid symptoms in the last major population estimate in 2024.
Add NHS waiting lists, delayed diagnoses and treatment, worsening mental health, musculoskeletal conditions and other chronic illnesses, and it is not difficult to see how more people can end up too unwell to remain in work.
Yet at the same time, Covid surveillance has been scaled back dramatically and Long Covid has largely disappeared from mainstream political discussion.
So Badenoch is right to ask why so many people are now living with disability and long-term illness.
But that makes her failure to quantify the supposedly “huge number” of people who are perfectly capable of working but simply do not even more important.
Being disabled is not the same as being unable to work. - Millions of disabled people already work.
And being economically inactive because of long-term sickness does not automatically mean someone could simply return to work tomorrow.
If politicians genuinely think Britain has too many people becoming sick or disabled, the answer should begin with prevention, healthcare, treatment, rehabilitation and making workplaces more accessible.
The question should not just be, “Why aren't these people working?”
It should also be, “Why are so many people becoming too ill to work in the first place?”